I've always had this thing that I do when arguing or debating or just discussing a heated issue. I admit fault. I'm willing to give a little, and admit where I went wrong... but will only continue to do so if it's:
1. recieved intelligently
2. respectfully returned
3. issues important to me are discussed as well
I get it, these guys want to talk about kendra, still. So I listened to it, thinking "okay, let them get out all the things that they need to get out, if this is going to be a discussion... they are going to want to talk about things that are important to them, and this is"
So... 2 days later, we are still talking about Kendra. Not once have they addressed their shitty actions. They are still defending them. They will not even give the smallest bit... and admit that calling someone a whore is inappropriate. I shouldn't say "they"... most of them.
So how can I logically expect them to understand that they have continued to hurt people who aren't involved in this. They are still fighting about things that happened 5 months ago!! So.. maybe in 5 months we can talk about that.
I need to clarify something here: when I entered into talking to these people, it was because I was sick of feeling as if people were being attacked for no reason. But this will continue, because the people who are doing it can't even acknowledge it. They can't see that their actions have directly resulted in this great big wall of division between us. They took a little disagreement, and turned into world war 3.... and the whole time convinced themselves that they are more enlightened and intelligent than anyone else. If that were the case, they would have dealt with this whole issue a whole lot better, and would deal with it better now.
For those of you that wished to express your opinions calmly and intelligently... the people who couldn't do that ruined it for you. Not the people who felt differently. The people who slung insults and attacked posters took the possibility of that conversation away from you. Big deal though, you've found a place to do that now. You can talk endlessly, as you have proved, about all these issues that are important to you.... so quit your playground tactics and leave other people alone! You have, most of you, taken great joy in ruining and defacing other peoples experiences... there is absolutely no way that you can justify that, there is no way that you can continue to tell people that you are better because of it. It's bullshit.
For those of you that are/were offended that I put you all into the same group... what was I supposed to do? 75 % of your posters are "anonymous".... my only assumption could be that their opinions and bullshit name calling were supported by you. It's your blog. Hmm... that's an interesting way of percieving things isn't it? That the operator of a blog, website or forum would be completely within the scope of reason to want their blog, website or forum to represent their beliefs, values and be operating in a way that they are comfortable with? Not everyone is you, for some people, offensive is indeed offensive.
For some of you, the ones that I gathered were reasonable and respectful.. thank you, but you've looked past the faults of your own peers, for what? For the greater good of what?
This is all a big circle, everything I say find it's way back to me.... it's a playground fight.
It recently occurred to me that many of you don't want to be heard, or to have the freedom to say what you feel... you've had that for 5 months are you're still expressing it in an offensive way. You want people to agree with you, and as long as that doesn't happen you'll continue with the namecalling, slander and lies.
Look at yourselves, that's my point.
eta: I just wanted to add, I don't usually like to brag, but the fact is... I called it. I recently told someone in an email that, when I didn't "run away" as they thought I would, they would eventually end the conversation by attempting to ridicule and feigning dismissal. I didn't really want to be right, but I figured it was a cowards action and fitted right in with the history. Like I said, they don't want to talk or be heard.. they want to insult people and be right. I can't help them with that, they aren't right.
"they" in italics are a reference to those who did that... they know who they are. For anyone who feels I unjustly included them in that group, I didn't. My comments were directed at them.
Thursday, March 22, 2007
Saturday, March 17, 2007
Done Blogging
Okay, after a little thought I've decided to end my blogging career on highnote. Maybe down the road I'll start another blog for friends. It's been fun, I'll keep in touch.
One last great thing to think about, the "wonky" jacket, as so aptly named by a really great person:
If Tan is Inch..... HAHAHA I get it!!!!
I guess I should have been clear. By assuming an alias, ie. claiming to be a different sex, live a different lifestyle, changing the identity that everyone knew you as... you are being deceitful. You see, people know me as inch, which is actually a nick name in real life too.. but that's not the point, it is what people have known me as, called me names as.. been annoyed by. My actual name is Tanya, but everyone calls me Tan. I have talked about my life on this blog, my interests and who I am. That pretty much sums up what I was trying to say. I'm sorry I wasn't clearer, I've gone and made you call me names... which I understand to be your only course of action when someone disagrees with you.
But since I know I have your attention, where the fuck do you people really stand? Are you for censorship or not? Because it seems your stance changes whenever it fits you best. Or do you just want to make all the rules, you little bossies!!! It kind of doesn't fit with the whole "followers" thing you have going on, but hey... it's your story. I know, I know... you'll call me names if you answer at all... I'll be okay, you just go ahead and do what you have to do.
I guess thats just a personal peeve of mine, people who can't decide what the fuck they're about. It's like some strange liberal, conservative and communist mix.... but as far as I can tell, you're pretty much into making the rules and trashing anyone who doesn't follow them. Just so long as you know that about yourselves, then I guess it's all good.
Also, I understand an actual "discussion" is a reach for you, and I don't want you to sprain anything... I was just throwing some thoughts out there. I also LOVE the idea that a big group of you are running one blog, hopefully one or two cohesive thoughts will amount from your joint effort... but judging from the result so far, I'm not holding out a lot of hope.
Congratulations on your little endeavor, I hope you find all the shit you hate and don't understand to be as consuming as your predecessor.
One final note: when I refer to your, you're or you... I'm pretty much putting you all in there, I hope you don't mind, but to someone who isn't in your weird little hate group... you all pretty much seem the same.
I'm going to include a little information on hate groups that I so craftily found at Wikipedia:
Hate group
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A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates hate, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender or other designated sector of society, or that supports and publishes assertions and argumentation characteristic of hate groups without necessarily explicitly advocating such hate or violence that otherwise characterize hate groups. The term "hate group" is not used by these groups themselves, but rather by those who oppose them, and sometimes by sociologists or historians who study them. Many groups described this way disagree with the term as misconstruing their motives or goals.
Hate groups usually assert that the targets of their attacks are harmful to society, malicious, less fit to be members of society, or are operating some hidden cabal. The evidence hate groups present for these assertions is usually poorly corroborated, and is often based explicitly on the hate group's negative beliefs about the social groups to which the target is or is imagined to belong (e.g. groups based on race, national origin, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability, etc.).
Although their evidence is usually inaccurate, sub-standard and widely rejected by society, the hate group continues to propagate assertions, myths, narratives and rumours, playing upon fear, xenophobia, blame or jealousy, with the aim of harming the individuals and groups they target, and inciting others to distrust or hate them also. The ultimate aim of a hate group is commonly the delegitimization, elimination, and exclusion of groups, or the harm, deportation, or death of individuals. Hate groups often use their victims as scapegoats to blame for discontent in society.
The following is information from Wikipedia also, but I wanted to clarify I didn't post the last 2 stages, because I would hope that it doesn't apply, also, before someone stupidly points out the words that don't apply in this, be a little afraid about the ones that do. Just reading this makes me think maybe you guys have a manual or something:
Psychopathology of hate groups
According to a report published in 2003 in the FBI Law Enforcement bulletin3, a hate group, if unimpeded, passes through seven successive stages of hate. In the first four stages, hate groups vocalize their beliefs and in the last three stages, they act on their beliefs. The report points to a transition period that exists between verbal violence and acting that violence out, separating hard-core haters from rhetorical haters. Thus, hate speech are seen as prerequisites of hate crimes and as a condition of their possibility. Similar stages have been proposed for genocide.
Stage 1: Grouping
Haters feel compelled to have others hate as they do. Through peer validation, they get a sense of self-worth and at the same time prevent introspection. Individuals who otherwise would be ineffective become empowered when they form or join groups. In addition, groups provide a welcome anonymity in which to express hate without being held accountable.
Stage 2: Self-definition
Hate groups create identities through symbols, mythologies, and rituals, designed to enhance the members' status and at the same time, degrade the object of their hate.
Stage 3: Disparaging the target
By verbally debasing the object of their hate, haters enhance their self-image, as well as their group status. Researchers have found that the more often a person thinks about aggression, the greater the chance for aggressive behavior to occur. Thus, after constant verbal denigration, haters progress to the next stage.
Stage 4: Taunting the target
Time cools the fire of hate forcing the hater to look inward. To avoid introspection, haters increase their use of rhetoric and violence to maintain high levels of agitation. Taunts and offensive gestures serve this purpose.
Stage 5: Attacking without weapons
This stage is critical because it differentiates vocally abusive haters from physically abusive ones. Violence coalesces hate groups and isolates them from mainstream society. The element of thrill-seeking appears in this stage. The adrenaline "high" intoxicates the attackers. Each successive hate derived thought or action triggers a more violent response than the one that originally initiated the sequence. Anger builds on anger. Adrenaline-high combined with hate becomes a deadly combination.
Information provided by Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_group
PS I just wanted to say, I was wrong... I responded to this crap yet again... and I might again, I'm not sure. I guess now that you've dirtied up my blog with your presence... what have I got to lose.
But since I know I have your attention, where the fuck do you people really stand? Are you for censorship or not? Because it seems your stance changes whenever it fits you best. Or do you just want to make all the rules, you little bossies!!! It kind of doesn't fit with the whole "followers" thing you have going on, but hey... it's your story. I know, I know... you'll call me names if you answer at all... I'll be okay, you just go ahead and do what you have to do.
I guess thats just a personal peeve of mine, people who can't decide what the fuck they're about. It's like some strange liberal, conservative and communist mix.... but as far as I can tell, you're pretty much into making the rules and trashing anyone who doesn't follow them. Just so long as you know that about yourselves, then I guess it's all good.
Also, I understand an actual "discussion" is a reach for you, and I don't want you to sprain anything... I was just throwing some thoughts out there. I also LOVE the idea that a big group of you are running one blog, hopefully one or two cohesive thoughts will amount from your joint effort... but judging from the result so far, I'm not holding out a lot of hope.
Congratulations on your little endeavor, I hope you find all the shit you hate and don't understand to be as consuming as your predecessor.
One final note: when I refer to your, you're or you... I'm pretty much putting you all in there, I hope you don't mind, but to someone who isn't in your weird little hate group... you all pretty much seem the same.
I'm going to include a little information on hate groups that I so craftily found at Wikipedia:
Hate group
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates hate, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender or other designated sector of society, or that supports and publishes assertions and argumentation characteristic of hate groups without necessarily explicitly advocating such hate or violence that otherwise characterize hate groups. The term "hate group" is not used by these groups themselves, but rather by those who oppose them, and sometimes by sociologists or historians who study them. Many groups described this way disagree with the term as misconstruing their motives or goals.
Hate groups usually assert that the targets of their attacks are harmful to society, malicious, less fit to be members of society, or are operating some hidden cabal. The evidence hate groups present for these assertions is usually poorly corroborated, and is often based explicitly on the hate group's negative beliefs about the social groups to which the target is or is imagined to belong (e.g. groups based on race, national origin, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability, etc.).
Although their evidence is usually inaccurate, sub-standard and widely rejected by society, the hate group continues to propagate assertions, myths, narratives and rumours, playing upon fear, xenophobia, blame or jealousy, with the aim of harming the individuals and groups they target, and inciting others to distrust or hate them also. The ultimate aim of a hate group is commonly the delegitimization, elimination, and exclusion of groups, or the harm, deportation, or death of individuals. Hate groups often use their victims as scapegoats to blame for discontent in society.
The following is information from Wikipedia also, but I wanted to clarify I didn't post the last 2 stages, because I would hope that it doesn't apply, also, before someone stupidly points out the words that don't apply in this, be a little afraid about the ones that do. Just reading this makes me think maybe you guys have a manual or something:
Psychopathology of hate groups
According to a report published in 2003 in the FBI Law Enforcement bulletin3, a hate group, if unimpeded, passes through seven successive stages of hate. In the first four stages, hate groups vocalize their beliefs and in the last three stages, they act on their beliefs. The report points to a transition period that exists between verbal violence and acting that violence out, separating hard-core haters from rhetorical haters. Thus, hate speech are seen as prerequisites of hate crimes and as a condition of their possibility. Similar stages have been proposed for genocide.
Stage 1: Grouping
Haters feel compelled to have others hate as they do. Through peer validation, they get a sense of self-worth and at the same time prevent introspection. Individuals who otherwise would be ineffective become empowered when they form or join groups. In addition, groups provide a welcome anonymity in which to express hate without being held accountable.
Stage 2: Self-definition
Hate groups create identities through symbols, mythologies, and rituals, designed to enhance the members' status and at the same time, degrade the object of their hate.
Stage 3: Disparaging the target
By verbally debasing the object of their hate, haters enhance their self-image, as well as their group status. Researchers have found that the more often a person thinks about aggression, the greater the chance for aggressive behavior to occur. Thus, after constant verbal denigration, haters progress to the next stage.
Stage 4: Taunting the target
Time cools the fire of hate forcing the hater to look inward. To avoid introspection, haters increase their use of rhetoric and violence to maintain high levels of agitation. Taunts and offensive gestures serve this purpose.
Stage 5: Attacking without weapons
This stage is critical because it differentiates vocally abusive haters from physically abusive ones. Violence coalesces hate groups and isolates them from mainstream society. The element of thrill-seeking appears in this stage. The adrenaline "high" intoxicates the attackers. Each successive hate derived thought or action triggers a more violent response than the one that originally initiated the sequence. Anger builds on anger. Adrenaline-high combined with hate becomes a deadly combination.
Information provided by Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_group
PS I just wanted to say, I was wrong... I responded to this crap yet again... and I might again, I'm not sure. I guess now that you've dirtied up my blog with your presence... what have I got to lose.
Thursday, March 15, 2007
Shoes and stuff
Alright, I'm not going to get into an all out blog war with a bunch of hens with 30 seconds of life experience. But the way anonymous said I was annoying... ohhh burn!! Good one, you win.... you far surpass me in name calling and slander, I won't even try to keep up with that shit.
Something much more interesting than that is this though:
Casadei:
Etro:
Taryn Rose:
Mia:
Taryn Rose:
Something much more interesting than that is this though:
Casadei:
Etro:
Taryn Rose:
Mia:
Taryn Rose:
Monday, March 12, 2007
The way I feel...
Wow.. this blog is mine!! I mean, I haven't gone to any lengths to hide who I am or what interests I have. That's because I don't care even the littlest bit what people think. I mean, maybe I like people to notice my rad outfits... but if they don't, I forgive them immediately. I've said things about myself and my life on my blog that could easily fuel some nasty witches fire, but you know what? I don't care at all.. it's me. I'm 32 years old, if I can't muster up a little bit of self confidence in who I am, what I have achieved and what I like... than what the hell have I been doing?
What I'm trying to say is this:
How intelligent, interesting or humorous is a person that feels the need to hide behind a false identity to say hateful things. How unique and self assured is a girl with a vendetta pretending to be a gay man with a valid opinon.
How new is it to mock others while hiding behind this assumed identity? Yeah, it really takes alot of balls to pretend to be someone else and find imperfections in others.
It would seem to me that a person doing these ridiculous and somewhat creepy things is lacking in all of the positive traits that make someone a decent human being.
Now, if we go to the root of the idiot I speak of and read her actual thoughts and interests, which I might add are sorrily lacking because she is wholly devoted to her little obsessive ranting and charading, we see that she is indeed lacking every single quality that would make a person appealing to others.
Traits I noticed, and some she recognizes in herself:
1. superficial
2. judgemental
3. hypocritical
4. boring
5. unoriginal
I guess maybe I've been too hard on her, she's just trying to make her mark on the world, and the only way she can do that is by pretending to be someone else. But to be truthful, I think she could use one of those self help classes so she could get a little esteem and pride in herself. I've heard they tell you to look in the mirror and repeat positive affirmations aloud. If I were to offer up any suggestions, it would be this:
"I'm okay the way I am, I don't need to pretend to be someone else. Somebody will like me."
That or maybe she's really trying to get a gig with the stalkerazzi.
I'm so sick of this neverending crap!! I hate feeling as if anything I say will be mocked, or who I am is up for challenge. Screw you lady, because honestly, you suck.. as a person and as your make believe person. You bring the absolute worst out in people, good for you!! If this is what it takes to get you through the day... you need help.
Signed yours truly,
TWAT representative #85 of the local TWAT union, Canada.... bitch.
edited because I was too mean and had to take some nasty stuff out. What I said, although true, is not for me to say. I would like to say that gay men everywhere should be thoroughly offended by all the stereotypes she's using to disguise herself. I also really hope that my three or four readers won't be offended, sometimes I get mad.
What I'm trying to say is this:
How intelligent, interesting or humorous is a person that feels the need to hide behind a false identity to say hateful things. How unique and self assured is a girl with a vendetta pretending to be a gay man with a valid opinon.
How new is it to mock others while hiding behind this assumed identity? Yeah, it really takes alot of balls to pretend to be someone else and find imperfections in others.
It would seem to me that a person doing these ridiculous and somewhat creepy things is lacking in all of the positive traits that make someone a decent human being.
Now, if we go to the root of the idiot I speak of and read her actual thoughts and interests, which I might add are sorrily lacking because she is wholly devoted to her little obsessive ranting and charading, we see that she is indeed lacking every single quality that would make a person appealing to others.
Traits I noticed, and some she recognizes in herself:
1. superficial
2. judgemental
3. hypocritical
4. boring
5. unoriginal
I guess maybe I've been too hard on her, she's just trying to make her mark on the world, and the only way she can do that is by pretending to be someone else. But to be truthful, I think she could use one of those self help classes so she could get a little esteem and pride in herself. I've heard they tell you to look in the mirror and repeat positive affirmations aloud. If I were to offer up any suggestions, it would be this:
"I'm okay the way I am, I don't need to pretend to be someone else. Somebody will like me."
That or maybe she's really trying to get a gig with the stalkerazzi.
I'm so sick of this neverending crap!! I hate feeling as if anything I say will be mocked, or who I am is up for challenge. Screw you lady, because honestly, you suck.. as a person and as your make believe person. You bring the absolute worst out in people, good for you!! If this is what it takes to get you through the day... you need help.
Signed yours truly,
TWAT representative #85 of the local TWAT union, Canada.... bitch.
edited because I was too mean and had to take some nasty stuff out. What I said, although true, is not for me to say. I would like to say that gay men everywhere should be thoroughly offended by all the stereotypes she's using to disguise herself. I also really hope that my three or four readers won't be offended, sometimes I get mad.
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