Thursday, March 22, 2007

Popping out of blog retirement to say this:

I've always had this thing that I do when arguing or debating or just discussing a heated issue. I admit fault. I'm willing to give a little, and admit where I went wrong... but will only continue to do so if it's:

1. recieved intelligently
2. respectfully returned
3. issues important to me are discussed as well



I get it, these guys want to talk about kendra, still. So I listened to it, thinking "okay, let them get out all the things that they need to get out, if this is going to be a discussion... they are going to want to talk about things that are important to them, and this is"

So... 2 days later, we are still talking about Kendra. Not once have they addressed their shitty actions. They are still defending them. They will not even give the smallest bit... and admit that calling someone a whore is inappropriate. I shouldn't say "they"... most of them.
So how can I logically expect them to understand that they have continued to hurt people who aren't involved in this. They are still fighting about things that happened 5 months ago!! So.. maybe in 5 months we can talk about that.


I need to clarify something here: when I entered into talking to these people, it was because I was sick of feeling as if people were being attacked for no reason. But this will continue, because the people who are doing it can't even acknowledge it. They can't see that their actions have directly resulted in this great big wall of division between us. They took a little disagreement, and turned into world war 3.... and the whole time convinced themselves that they are more enlightened and intelligent than anyone else. If that were the case, they would have dealt with this whole issue a whole lot better, and would deal with it better now.


For those of you that wished to express your opinions calmly and intelligently... the people who couldn't do that ruined it for you. Not the people who felt differently. The people who slung insults and attacked posters took the possibility of that conversation away from you. Big deal though, you've found a place to do that now. You can talk endlessly, as you have proved, about all these issues that are important to you.... so quit your playground tactics and leave other people alone! You have, most of you, taken great joy in ruining and defacing other peoples experiences... there is absolutely no way that you can justify that, there is no way that you can continue to tell people that you are better because of it. It's bullshit.

For those of you that are/were offended that I put you all into the same group... what was I supposed to do? 75 % of your posters are "anonymous".... my only assumption could be that their opinions and bullshit name calling were supported by you. It's your blog. Hmm... that's an interesting way of percieving things isn't it? That the operator of a blog, website or forum would be completely within the scope of reason to want their blog, website or forum to represent their beliefs, values and be operating in a way that they are comfortable with? Not everyone is you, for some people, offensive is indeed offensive.

For some of you, the ones that I gathered were reasonable and respectful.. thank you, but you've looked past the faults of your own peers, for what? For the greater good of what?

This is all a big circle, everything I say find it's way back to me.... it's a playground fight.

It recently occurred to me that many of you don't want to be heard, or to have the freedom to say what you feel... you've had that for 5 months are you're still expressing it in an offensive way. You want people to agree with you, and as long as that doesn't happen you'll continue with the namecalling, slander and lies.
Look at yourselves, that's my point.


eta: I just wanted to add, I don't usually like to brag, but the fact is... I called it. I recently told someone in an email that, when I didn't "run away" as they thought I would, they would eventually end the conversation by attempting to ridicule and feigning dismissal. I didn't really want to be right, but I figured it was a cowards action and fitted right in with the history. Like I said, they don't want to talk or be heard.. they want to insult people and be right. I can't help them with that, they aren't right.

"they" in italics are a reference to those who did that... they know who they are. For anyone who feels I unjustly included them in that group, I didn't. My comments were directed at them.

4 comments:

shipwreck said...

Dear friend,

I stayed away for a while and I'm sorry. I shouldn't have, it was chicken shit. I should have defended you. NOT because you needed it, but because you are a friend and I just should have. I didn't want to get involved, because frankly I don't care about any of it. I don't care for or about Kendra or the people who can’t handle the fact that she exists. I hardly ever post on RB anymore, because, well, it's just not fun anymore. That's neither here nor there. What is here and there and every fucking where is this rabid aggression from so called fans, it's mob mentality at its worst, and it’s wrong. Is anyone really getting hurt because they can't post their bullshit complaints on a fan forum anymore? I mean what was the damage? It's fantasy, right? None of this matters in the real world, does it? I know I shouldn't bother, this is all pretty silly when you think about it, except that it is hurting people that I care about. Having your own forum to discuss your own conspiracies is one thing, but the incessant sending of nasty e-mails and the mocking of innocent fans is bullshit. Now, please don't think this means I care, again, I don't. I'm not going to respond to any taunting. In fact, I'm done. Blogging and posting, that was fun while it lasted, but frankly I'm not interested in worrying about when or if the sharks are circling. I'm too busy doing things and going places. Like places that aren't in front of this computer. Imagine. I’m sure the other people reading this couldn’t care less about what I think. That’s great. I’m just writing to tell you something. Tan, you are a dear and level-headed friend. You were right to respond and you are right to defend yourself. Also, you are RAD, in the truest sense of the word. Now stop this silliness and retire like I know you want to.

Your biggest fan,

SW

T.K. said...

You are right shipwreck, we're both pretty damn rad! I'm sooo retired now. This will be my last post on any blog ever... unless it's about shoes or clothes. But internet fighting... what a damn joke!!!


You are the voice of reason I needed, thanks!!!!

Sherri B. said...

Inch, kudos to you for handling yourself with class.

7SeeS7 said...

in case you are still bothering to check your comments I wanted to thank you for coming over & talking.

You handled yourself with real class & you changed the way I look at some of the issues involved in all this.
cheers